critique this cycle...

[MrTAME]

Alright, here is what I am thinking about doin fire away youre complaints or gimmie bumps:

weeks 1-12 : 750 mg enth every week
weeks 1-6 : 25 mg d-bol ed
weeks 1-10 : 500 mg eq every week

I have pre existing gyno that cant be seen but its there and I am hoping that .5 mg of arimidex ed should be good...plus keep some nolva on the side as well.

PCT: week 13 -15 : 150 mg clomid ed, 50 mg nolva ed, .5 mg arimidex ed
week 16 : 100 mg clomid ed , 25 mg nolva ed, .5 mg arimidex ed
week 17 : 50 mg clomid ed, 10 mg nolva ed, .5 mg arimidex ed

DONE

This will be the first cycle in years (6) that I have done...I am looking at putting on and keeping anywhere from 30-45 lbs. Think this is feasable. 5'9 180 lbs at about 9 % bf currently. 1 lb of lean ground beef a day does wonders when on :-)...plus lots of boneless skinless chickenbreasts mmm...gotta go cook now...

[Mr.X]

i like it, but how about just keeping it at test + dbol only?

[MrTAME]

what should I add in there other than the eq then? any suggestions?

[Spook]

Since it has been 5-6 years since your last cycle, I'd take X's suggestion and drop the EQ for now and leave the cycle as it is.

Nice to see you back man.

[MrTAME]

adding in propecia...does that affect gains at all? or does it just prevent test from getting to the hair...I want to keep my hair nice and thick :-)

[djsf]

What is your goal for this cycle? Get huge, build lean mass, look good, or prepare for an athletic event, etc.? How many pounds do you want to gain? What will your ending stats be?

Your goals will dictate what the second compound (the one in addition to test) would be (if any), and whether or not you would use dbol.

For example, if you were going to use 2-3 compounds and your goal was to get as huge as possible, you could do test (with optional dbol start), and optionally add deca (with optional winstrol finish).

If your goal was to build lean, aesthetic mass, you might want to add tren + a very small amount of winstrol to the test instead.

If you diet properly and use the right ancillaries, you can accomplish either goal on testosterone alone. If you haven't cycled in a long time, you might want to do a test only cycle to keep it simple and get the hang of it again. You can start stacking compounds in future cycles.

[Mr. dB]

For a test-only cycle, if you really feel the need to jump start, instead of dbol I'd consider either front-loading with more test enanthate, front-loading with test prop, or do the first four-six weeks on Sustanon and then run out the duration of the cycle on enanthate.

However, instead of a jump start, I think I'd just add four weeks to the cycle. So I'm saying enanthate, 750mg/week, for 16-18 weeks instead of 12. That's my final answer Regis.

[MrTAME]

I think you guys are right, I am just getting back into the game here and a test only cycle would be the way to go. 750 mg a week should be more than plenty for myself.

As for my goals, right now I am just looking at putting on slabs of meat again. It doesnt have to be all too quality because I cut up nice. My natural bf if I become a couch potatoe will not go over 12 % and I am almost a pure mesomorph so that helps a lot as well. I don't really need to cut all that much after a bulking cycle...or not at all if I diet and get the proper amount of cardio in.

Also as for the Anti estrogen...would you guys prefer letro over arimi? I have no probs getting my hands on Arimi but letro is hard to come by for me. As I said before I have a lil bit of gyno but its not noticable, all it will take for it to become noticable is one slip up with my anti e's, so I have to get it down packed right because I really dont want to spend a couple of grand on surgery that isnt needed.

ALSO Mr. DB, isnt running a cycle for 4-5 months a little long? trying to get the nuts to come back after a cycle like that might be pretty hard imo... the longest cycle I have done is 12 weeks and for me.... that was real long, put on hella nice mas with it too :-)

[MrTAME]

Hmmm....actually now I am really thinking about doing a 20 week cycle just by the way things are all adding up by the way I order things...20 weeks would be exactly 30 vials...anyone done a cycle that long before? ups and downs of going that long? I will need to know because now I am seriously considering a 20 week ( holy crap 5 months!) cycle...that would be massive...damn I would get freakin huge.

[djsf]

MrTame, what compounds would you be using in a 20 week cycle? I personally wouldn't do a cycle that long. I would be shut down hard and recovery would be very difficult and take a long time. Would rather do two 10-12 week cycles with recovery in between. If you did test only at a low-ish dose, maybe 20 weeks is ok. If you are thinking of using tren or deca for those 20 weeks, I would think that would be a bad idea.