Cycle that needs some work

[littleman50]

Here you go - educated opinions wanted:

Week Deca Cyp Sust Dbol Anadrol Fina Prop Win
1 300 500 250 20 50ed
2 300 500 250 30 50
3 400 400 500 40 50
4 500 400 500 50 50
5 500 200 250 40 50
6 400 200 250 40 50 75ed 50ed
7 300 250 30 75 50
8 200 250 20 75 150 50
9 75 150 50
10 75 100 50
11 75 100 50

HCG 5000 iu/week, igf1 weeks 3-7 and 12 - 16

180#, 13%bf

thanks

[littleman50]

Hate the way this damn formatting comes out so here's the cycle again:

Deca Week 1-8, 300, 300, 400, 500, 500, 400, 300, 200
Cyp Week 1-6, 500, 500, 400, 400, 200, 200
Sust Week 1-8, 250, 250, 500, 500, 250, 250, 250, 250
Dbol ed Week 1-8, 20, 30, 40, 40, 40, 40, 30, 20
Anadrol Week 1-6, 50ed
Fina Week 6-11, 75ed
Prop Week 8-11, 150, 150, 100, 100
Win Week 6-11, 50ed

HCG throughout 5000 iu/week
IGF Week 3-8 and 12 - 16

Sorry for the sloppines

[Mr.X]

first bro, dont use anadrol and dbol together
why you using cyp and sust together? logic is ?

why fina on that cycle?

[Mr.X]

btw...you can use all those products in a LONG cycle 25wks+ not an 11 weeker

[erokyrwrld]

You are on some 17aa oral at all times for 11 weeks. This is not a good idea. Show your liver some love and break up your orals to two 4 weeks periods, split by a 3 week gap.

[littleman50]

Thanks - any other changes you'd make?

[littleman50]

Ok some updated info that might be helpful in advising me.

This will be my 16th cycle since 99. I'm at 180# and ~ 13% bf. I'd like to get to 190 and hold it. Diet I understand. No side effects to date. Legal test at 50mg/day.

I'm trying to get more scientific about this and need some help. I appreciate this forum (new to it) versus some of the others in that ignorance is not blasted. I have read many of the threads but am not sure what to put together and in what quantities for a cycle. Don't care about length of cycle - more concerned about hitting goals and doing what it takes.

thanks in advance

[Mr.X]

littleman

Deca Week 1-8, 300, 300, 400, 500, 500, 400, 300, 200
Cyp Week 1-6, 500, 500, 400, 400, 200, 200
Sust Week 1-8, 250, 250, 500, 500, 250, 250, 250, 250
Dbol ed Week 1-8, 20, 30, 40, 40, 40, 40, 30, 20
Anadrol Week 1-6, 50ed
Fina Week 6-11, 75ed
Prop Week 8-11, 150, 150, 100, 100
Win Week 6-11, 50ed
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I would split that whole cycle
into 2 parts

bulking cutting run over 25+ weeks

bulking you can run deca/sust/dbol/androl
cutting you can run cyp/prop/fina/winny

follow me?

[littleman50]

Almost because in a previous post you asked why was I running dbol and anadrol together but you have them together in the bulking phase?

HCG throughout or only PCT?

IGF - yes and when?

And lastly, assuming time on = time off, 8 weeks on with bulking, 8 off, 8 on with cutting? Yes?

Scale of 1 - 10, what's your thoughts on the effectiveness of the cycle - 10 being high? If less than 9 feel free to be the wise master!

[Mr.X]

Almost because in a previous post you asked why was I running dbol and anadrol together but you have them together in the bulking phase?->not together, you'll need to split them, i.e. run dbol for 4 weeks and anadrol for 4 weeks at diffrent times

HCG throughout or only PCT?-PCT

IGF - yes and when?-IGF is a good compound , can be ran bulking/cutting and pct

And lastly, assuming time on = time off, 8 weeks on with bulking, 8 off, 8 on with cutting? Yes?-time off + PCT , so if your PCT is 4 weeks that's 12 weeks off

Scale of 1 - 10, what's your thoughts on the effectiveness of the cycle - 10 being high? If less than 9 feel free to be the wise master!-diet is key, if your diet is shit you'll look like shit and it'll be a 1...heck I can get amazing gains with just test